A Lively Experiment 9/13/2019

A Lively Experiment 9/13/2019


JIM: “A LIVELY EXPERIMENT THIS WEEK ON,” — THIS WEEK ON “A LIVELY EXPERIMENT,” TROUBLE CONTINUES TO FOLLOW A LOCAL MAYOR. VOTERS MAY HAVE THE FINAL SAY. I’M JOHN HE IS IN WHITE JUNIOR AND I AM PROUD TO SUPPORT THIS GREAT PROGRAM ON RHODE ISLAND PBS. JIM: JOINING US THIS WEEK, BROWN UNIVERSITY POLITICAL SCIENCE PROFESSOR WENDY SCHILLER, BILL BARTHOLOMEW, HOST OF THE BARTHOLOMEWTOWN PODCAST AND FORMER REPUBLICAN CHAIR BRANDON BELL. IN THE CITY OF FALL RIVER, EMBATTLED MAYOR JASIEL CORREIA IS DEFYING A CITY COUNCIL VOTE TO REMOVE HIM. HE HAS FACED MANY ISSUES IN WHAT SEEMS TO BE UNCHARTED TERRITORY. THE BEST LINE, I THINK, CAME FROM THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT. THIS GUY MAKES BUDDY C IN SEIZING LIKE A PRIEST. PROF. SCHILLER: THE BUDDY EFFECT — RHODE ISLAND, THE TRADITION OF HAVING VOTERS ACCEPT A LITTLE BIT OF CORRUPTION JUST FOR THE PUBLIC GOOD. BUDDY CIANCI TRANSFORMED RHODE ISLAND. THERE WAS A COST. HE WENT TO JAIL. HE WAS WILLING TO GO TO JAIL. HE DID NOT HAVE A CHOICE. BUT HE WENT TO JAIL AND HE CAME BACK OUT. YOU DO THE CRIME. YOU HAVE TO DO THE TIME. THAT IS TESTIFYING THE CITY COUNCIL IS, FRANKLY, GROUNDS FOR REMOVAL. JIM: WHAT ABOUT THE ARGUMENT INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY AND INCAPACITATION, HE SAYS, GOES TO RENTAL, PHYSICAL. HE SAYS I’M NOT THAT. IN THE COURT OF PUBLIC OPINION, HE MAY BE.>>THE PRESUMPTION OF INNOCENCE IS A GREAT PRESUMPTION. IT CANNOT BE REBUTTED UNTIL YOU ARE IN COURT. IS HE INCAPACITATED? IF WHAT THEY SAY IS TRUE, IT IS AN INSULT TO BUDDY CIANCI. THIS GUY IS BRAZEN. JIM: BUT HE WOULD HAVE BEEN MORE DISCREET.>>IS PART OF THE KLEPTOCRACY BY WHICH — IT IS PART OF THE KLEPTOCRACY BY WHICH FALL RIVER HAS BEEN RUN, IT SOUNDS LIKE. I WILL TELL YOU, IF I AM A POLITICIAN IN MASSACHUSETTS AND A.J. WALTON, I WOULD BE WORRIED. JIM: THE U.S. ATTORNEY, THE MAYOR SAYS IS HIS POLITICAL RIVAL — I THINK IT IS ALARMING — THE PROCESS HERE, YOU’VE GOT A SITUATION WHERE THE MAYOR IS ARRESTED LESS THEN A YEAR AGO. NOW YOU HAVE THE SECOND ARREST AND IT’S JUST NOT A MECHANISM TO GET HIM OUT OF POWER. THIS GUY, EVEN IT HE LOSES, EVEN IF HE COMES IN THIRD IN THE PRELIMINARY, THE GUY SEEMS COMMITTED. WHAT A BREAKDOWN IN PROCESS, HOW JIM: YOU OTHER ISSUE, HE HAD TO ISSUE A PUBLIC NON-EXCEPT — NON-OBJECTION, AND HE IS SELLING THESE THINGS. THAT GOT CHARLIE BAKER’S ATTENTION. LIKE WE REALLY NEED TO REVIEW THIS PROCESS. PROF. SCHILLER: AND WHATEVER YOUR ALLEGIANCES ARE, OUR BUSINESS IS GOING TO COME TO FALL RIVER? FALL RIVER NEEDS ALL THE HELP IT CAN GET. THERE’S INSTABILITY AT THE VERY TESTING CORRUPTION AND CRIME AT THE WORST. IF YOU ARE A VOTER, YOU’RE THINKING, MAYBE HE IS GETTING RAILROADED. MAYBE HE’S INNOCENT. IS THIS GOOD FOR FALL RIVER? IT’S NOT. WHEN THE POLITICIAN CEASES BEING EFFECTIVE, THE POLITICIAN HAS TO GO. JIM: WE SAW THIS WITH KEVIN JACKSON — SOME PEOPLE SAY THESE ARE GUYS OF MINIMAL MEANS. JASIEL CORREIA, SOME WOULD SAY HE WAS LIVING OUT OF A CAR. HE WONDER IF IT IS I AM GETTING THE PAYCHECK UNTIL JANUARY, I DO NOT CARE WHAT YOU SAY.>>THAT INSTINCT, THIS GUY IS TRYING TO HOLD A PERSONA. HE HAS A DOCUMENTARY CREW FOLLOWING AROUND. IT JUST SEEMS OTHERWORLDLY.>>I AM WATCHING FALL RIVER. I DO NOT WANT THIS TO END BECAUSE IT’S FASCINATING. IT IS INCREDIBLE WHAT HE’S DOING OR ALLEGEDLY DOING. SO THE VOTERS NEED TO SPEAK UP.>>IS SO MOST LIKE YOU READ THOSE MOVIE REVIEWS AND ALIKE, ARE WE WATCHING THE SAME MOVIE? HE IS LIKE, EVERYTHING IS FINE, THERE’S NO MAN BEHIND THE CURTAIN, RIGHT? PROF. SCHILLER: YES. AND IT IS A DISSERVICE. PEOPLE ARE STRUGGLING. THEY ARE TRAINED TO KEEP THEIR HOUSES, TRYING TO KEEP THE COMMUNITY ALIVE IN THIS GUYS TREATING IT LIKE GARBAGE AND THEY HAVE TO SEE THAT. THEY HAVE TO UNDERSTAND IT IS DISRESPECTFUL TO THEM. JIM: WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE?>>IN RHODE ISLAND, WE SEE PEOPLE WHO HAVE PAID RIDES THEY GET OFF — PAID BRIBES THAT GET OFF EASILY. EXTORTION IS ECONOMIC DURESS. HE HAD YOUR TEEN OPPOSITION LETTERS? — 14 OPPOSITION LETTERS? JIM: IT WAS LIKE THE LIQUOR LICENSES. SPORTS BETTING, A BIT OF A SETBACK FOR SOME, INCLUDING ON THE SET. GRAND THEN, YOU WERE CHALLENGING, SAYING THE BOARDS BEDDING WAS NOT EVEN LEGAL BEFORE THE VOTERS WENT TO THE POLLS. TELL WHAT THE JUDGE SAID THIS WEEK. BRANDON: SURE. THE JUDGE KICKED US OUT ON STANDING AND WE ARE ADDRESSING THE ISSUE. IT’S NOT WITH PREJUDICE. IT IS NOT THAT WE CANNOT ADDRESS THE CASE. ULTIMATELY I THINK IT WILL BE HEARD ON THE MERITS. JIM: WHY ARE YOU — WHAT ARE YOU PUSHING THIS SO HARD? BRANDON: ON THE MERITS. WE THINK IT IS IMPORTANT. IT SHOULD NOT BE UP TO THE POLITICIANS. IT SHOULD BE UP TO THE PEOPLE. ANY EXPANSION NEEDS TO GO TO THE VOTERS AND HERE’S THE BIG THING. IT IS ABSURD TO BELIEVE, IF ANYONE BELIEVES, THE VOTERS IN 2012 OR 2016 APPROVED SPORTS BETTING WHEN IT WAS ILLEGAL IN 49 STATES, IT’S RIDICULOUS TO BELIEVE. BILL: I DEFINITELY THINK IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN BEFORE THE VOTERS THIS LAST NOVEMBER. THAT WOULD HAVE RESOLVED THE QUESTIONS. IT WOULD HAVE SATISFIED THE LAWSUIT. AND IT WOULD HAVE REASSURED THE LAWMAKERS AND THE RHODE ISLANDERS THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THE MAJORITY OF THE STATE WANTS. AT THE SAME TIME, AT THE END OF THE DAY, MOBILE SPORTS BETTING WILL CONTINUE TO BE ROLLED OUT MORE AND MORE IN RHODE ISLAND AND THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY. I DON’T THINK THERE’S ANY DENYING THAT. SO, IT’S GOOD FOR RHODE ISLAND TO BE AT THE FOREFRONT, BUT PROCESS. PROCESS WAS NOT NECESSARILY THE RIGHT MEANS TO GET THIS DONE. PROF. SCHILLER: I THINK IT IS SO UNFORTUNATE THE EXTENT TO WHICH RHODE ISLAND INCREASINGLY RELIES ON GAMBLING, ON THE LOTTERY, ON THINGS THAT ARE NOT GOOD FOR YOU. YOU LOOK AT THE PEOPLE WHO CAN LEAST AFFORD IT AND YOU THINK ABOUT HOW STATES AROUND THE COUNTRY ARE MAKING SO MUCH MONEY FROM THIS. THIS IS WHAT YOU WORRY ABOUT. RIDING ON THE BACKS OF PEOPLE WHO CANNOT AFFORD TO LOSE THE MONEY AND THEY LOSE THE MONEY. BILL: THEY SAY, WAIT UNTIL YOU GET A VIRTUAL CASINO ON YOUR IPAD. THAT SCARES ME. I AM NOT OPPOSED TO BETTING SPORTS. I AM NOT PERSONALLY OPPOSED TO IT. IT IS THE PROCESS. IF YOU’RE NOT GOING TO FOLLOW THE CONSTITUTION — JIM: GOVERNMENT IS NOT NIMBLE. MAYBE SPORTS GAMBLING WILL HELP, MOBILE PHONE, BUT WE’VE SEEN THAT HUGE HIT WITH 10 — WITH TWIN RIVER AND ON CORE. –ENCORE. WHERE WE MAKE UP THE DEFICIT? PROF. SCHILLER: YOU CAN’T. THEN THERE’S THE ISSUE OF THE YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN WHO PLAY COLLEGE SPORTS ARE NOT COMPENSATED FOR ALL THE MONEY THAT PEOPLE MAKE AND THAT’S A WHOLE OTHER DISCUSSION. THEY ARE PLAYING AND LOTS OF PEOPLE ARE MAKING MONEY AND NOT GETTING PAID. THAT WILL GET MORE AND MORE IN THE PUBLIC MIND. JIM: THE INTERIM SUPERINTENDENT HAD GOOD INTENTIONS. SHE PAID $170,000 IN WHAT SHE THOUGHT WAS AN INSPIRATIONAL BOOK. TEACHER SAID THERE WERE RELIGIOUS — THE TEACHERS OF THE RELIGIOUS OVERTONES. THEY PULLED IT. PEOPLE CAN READ IT, BUT IT’S NOT REQUIRED. BRANDON: IT’S UNFORTUNATE THE MONEY WAS SPENT. YOU LOOK AT THE INFRASTRUCTURE CHALLENGES — I GUESS THE INTENT WAS GOOD. TO ME IT SHOWS MAY BE A DISCONNECT BETWEEN THE INTERIM SUPERINTENDENT AND MODERN-DAY LITERATURE AND SOME OF THE OTHER OPTIONS THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT WOULD APPEAL TO KIDS THAT PROBABLY WOULD HAVE ZERO RISK OF HAVING RELIGIOUS OVERTONES. THERE’S PLENTY OF — THERE’S THE LEBRON JAMES BOOK, ALTHOUGH SHE WAS NOT ABLE TO DO AND IF I LEBRON JAMES BY NAME. THAT DISCONNECT, THE EXAMPLE OF WHERE YOU HAVE TO CLOSE THE GAP, SET CURRICULUM, ASSIGN BOOKS, WHAT THE KIDS WANT TO READ. IT NEEDS TO BE EVALUATED AND REEVALUATED. JIM: MY VOTE WOULD HAVE BEEN “CATCHER IN THE RIDE.” PROF. SCHILLER: YOU ARE DATING YOURSELF. JIM: HOLDEN CAULFIELD WAS MY HERO BACK IN THE DAY. PROF. SCHILLER: I BROUGHT UP CROP. THE CONSTITUTION. I THINK — I THINK EVERY STUDENT IN HIGH SCHOOL OUGHT TO BE ASSIGNED TO THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED DATES AND THE RHODE ISLAND CONSTITUTION. THEY NEED TO KNOW WHAT IT SAYS AND WHAT THEIR RIGHTS ARE AND THAT IS A NON-DEBATABLE THING. IT MAY SOUND DATED, BUT I THINK THAT SHOULD BE RQUIRED READING.>>OBVIOUSLY. I WAS THINKING THE BALTIMORE MAYOR. AND I THOUGHT — IT MIGHT’VE BEEN IN AARON JUDGE ERROR IN JUDGMENT, BUT I DID NOT READ THE BOOK. I DIDN’T READ THE CLIFF NANCY THERE. I CAN SAY I DON’T FIND A COUPLE REFERENCES TO A HIGHER AUTHORITY A PROBLEM AT ALL. JIM: SHE WAS KICKING HERSELF WITH DAN YORKE ON THE RADIO THE OTHER DAY. SHE IS ENOUGH CAPITAL TO DO THAT. MAYBE IT LOOKS LIKE SHE IS PULLING BACK. THE PROBLEM IS IT JUST OVERSHADOWS EVERYTHING THEY ARE TRYING TO TUNE OUT. WITH ALL THE PROBLEMS THEY HAVE, THIS IS PROBABLY NOT THE ONE SHE THOUGHT.>>CAN WE DO THIS MORE CHEAPLY, IS THERE SOME EDUCATIONAL EXPERIENCE THAT THEY CAN SHARE THAT WILL COST US $187,000? JIM: WHAT ABOUT THE MAYOR WANTING TO HAVE IT BOTH WAYS. THE LETTER OF NONOBJECTION — I AM NOT GOING TO OBJECT TO THE STATES COMING IN. THEN THERE IS A GROUP COMING ON AND SAYING I AM NOT GOING TO OBJECT. WHAT DO YOU WANT HERE, MAYOR? RIGHT?>>I SET DOWN WITH THE COMMISSIONER AND SAID POINT BLANK, WHO WAS IN CHARGE? AT 3:00 IN THE MORNING A DECISION NEEDS TO BE MADE IN THE COMMISSIONER SAID LEGALLY SHE IS IN CHARGE — JIM: NOT YET.>>AT 10:00 IN THE MORNING. BUT THE QUESTION IS HOW MUCH OF A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT TO SHE WANTS — DOES SHE WANT TO TRY WITH THE MAYOR? JIM: JUST LET ME GET IN AND DO THE JOB, WHAT DO THINK? PROF. SCHILLER: WE DO NOT KNOW IS JORGE A LORS IS RUNNING FOR GOVERNOR — JASIEL CORREIA –JORGE ELORZA IS RUNNING FOR GOVERNOR. BUT DISTANCING YOURSELF FROM THE PROVINCE SCHOOL SYSTEM AND SAYING THE STATE IS GOING TO TAKE CARE OF IT NOW IS A PRETTY SMART MOVE IF YOU’RE THINKING ABOUT GOING STATEWIDE TWO YEARS FROM NOW BECAUSE IF IT DOESN’T WORK HE WILL SAY, THEY DID NOT FIX IT. IF YOU THINK THAT THERE IS HIGHER AMBITION, THIS IS A PRETTY SMART THING TO DO. JIM: LET’S TALK ABOUT BABY OMAR. I TOLD MICHELLE SMITH, WHY DID YOU NOT BREAK THIS STORY BEFORE. SHE SAID, I WANTED TO. F YOU HAVE BEEN LIVING UNDER A ROCK, THE MAYOR IS GOING TO THE OFFICE WITH HIS YOUNG SON OMAR WITH HIM. HE IS PRESENTING THIS AS A PROGRESSIVE WAY OF PARENTING. ANYONE HAS TO DEAL WITH CHILDCARE, SICKNESS. CONCERTS OF SCHEDULING. I DO NOT KNOW WHAT MESSAGE IS BEING SENT, ESPECIALLY TO CITY WORKERS AND MAY NOT BE ABLE TO TAKE THEIR OWN KIDS TO CITY HALL.>>MONTHS AGO WHEN BABY OMAR APPEARED AT A HEARING ON EXPANDING ABORTION RIGHTS — HIS MOM WAS RIGHT NEXT TO DAD AND YOU HEAR “GOO GOO GA GA” AND YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT THE EXPANSION OF ABORTION RIGHTS — AGAIN, I’M AGAINST ABORTION, BUT IT’S A DEPRAVED MIND. JIM: HOW LONG DO YOU CALL HIM BABY OMAR?>>THE STATE SENATOR SAID MY HEART IS FILLED WITH JOY AND THE CHEERING IN THE GALLERIES FROM THE PAST. PROF. SCHILLER: THIS GOES BACK TO KIDS AMENABLE TO TAKE CARE OF THEM, TYPICALLY WOMEN. MAYBE THE SAME IN THE GOVERNMENT OUGHT TO THINK VERY SERIOUSLY ABOUT PROVIDING BETTER TAKE CARE OPTIONS FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES. I WISH I COULD BRING MY KID — IF I HAVE TO GO TO A MEETING, ARE THEY GOING TO TAKE CARE OF MY CHILD FOR AN HOUR. WHETHER IT IS DISTRACTING, THAT IS THE BIGGER QUESTION. CAN YOU DO THIS JOB 100% IF YOU’RE TAKING CARE OF A TODDLER? I THINK IT IS A QUESTION OF EQUITY AND ALSO EFFICIENCY. WOULD BE WORKFORCE BE BETTER AND MORE EFFICIENT IF THEY CAN GO TWO BLOCKS AWAY AND SEE THEM AT LUNCHTIME? I WOULD PAY FOR THAT AS A TAXPAYER. IT’S BETTER FOR COMMUNITIES. IT WOULD BE BETTER. I KNOW IT WOULD BE EXPENSIVE. BUT THE BURDEN OF CHILDCARE WOULD NOT FALL SO SQUARELY ON THE SHOULDERS OF WOMEN.>>THIS MAY BE PHASED OUT AS OMAR AGES. JIM: AND GOES TO PROVIDENCE SCHOOLS.>>AND BECOMES MORE MOBILE. I THINK THAT WAS IN MICHELLE SMITH’S PIECE. I DO NOT KNOW THE CORRECT DESCRIPTION OF SOMEONE AT OMAR’S AGE — JIM: TODDLER.>>THE NOISE, IT CREATES A DYNAMIC THAT MAY MAKE SOME PEOPLE UNCOMFORTABLE. THE MAYOR IS OBVIOUSLY GOING OUT OF HIS WAY. HE IS MAKING A STATEMENT. VERY PLAIN AND SIMPLE. CHILDCARE IN TODAY’S WORLD IS EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE. IT IS A BURDEN ON YOUR CAREER IF YOU HAVE CHILDREN, MALE OR FEMALE AND WE HAVE TO ADDRESS THAT AS A SOCIETY. JIM: AS A FATHER OF TWINS ARE NOW GROWN, I THINK IT IS A DISSERVICE TO THE CHILD BECAUSE I THINK OF ALL THE TIME — WE HAD OUR KIDS AND A PRETTY GOOD DAYCARE. THAT 101. THE COLORS, THE READING, HE’S NOT DOING ALL THAT. HE’S NOT DOING HIS JOB. AND THE KID IS NOT GETTING, TO ME, GOOD STIMULATION. IF HE IS JUST DRIVING HIM FROM PRESS CONFERENCE TO PRESS CONFERENCE, I DON’T KNOW. AS A FATHER — WHAT DO YOU THINK?>>I GUESS I WAS PRIVILEGED TO HAVE MY KIDS GO THROUGH DAYCARE, INCLUDING FULL-TIME KINDERGARTEN, AND I FELT BAD FOR MY FRIENDS WHO HAVE THEIR KIDS AT HOME BECAUSE MY CHILD WAS ADVANCING MUCH FASTER. PROF. SCHILLER: AS BILL POINTS OUT, THIS CHANGE IS — THIS WILL CHANGE AS ALMAGRO SPIRIT YOU CAN GET INTO THAT JUDE PLACE OF JUDGING PEOPLE’S CHOICES. BUT DO YOU WANT TO PAY FOR THE MAYOR’S CHILD’S TAKE CARE? IT’S THE TAXPAYER’S DIME AND THAT’S THE POINT YOU’RE MAKING. JIM: DO WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE DEMOCRATIC DEBATE? OF COURSE WE DO. BUT FIRST, OUTRAGES.>>ACTUALLY HAVE A COUPLE KUDOS. I HAVE CITIZENS, ACTIVISTS AT THE STATEHOUSE. I WAS AT THE STATEHOUSE DURING THE SUNRISE MOVEMENT CLIMATE CHANGE RALLY. THEY KNEW THE SAME CHANCE. GREAT-LOOKING BANNERS. I BUMPED INTO SEVERAL STATE OFFICEHOLDERS THAT WERE IMPRESSED WITH THE ENERGY. WHETHER YOU AGREE OR DISAGREE WITH WHAT THEY ARE ADVOCATING FOR, WHICH IS TO MOVE AWAY FROM FOSSIL FUELS, JUST NICE TO SEE ORGANIZED ACTION. ADVOCATING FOR MORATORIUM ON DEVELOPMENT. KUDOS. PROF. SCHILLER: I DON’T KNOW WHY THE MAYOR OF EAST PROVIDENCE GETS TO GO ON VACATION IN PORTUGAL. I PAID FOR WITH CAMPAIGN MONEY. CAMPAIGN MONEY IS STILL TAXPAYER DOLLARS. THAT IS STILL MONEY THEY WORK HARD TO EARN AND THEY GIVE IT TO THE MAYOR IN ORDER TO FACILITATE HIS MAYORSHIP, NOT HIS TRIP TO PORTUGAL. I THOUGHT IT WAS OUTRAGEOUS. I DID NOT CARE THAT HE CLAIMED HE WAS TRYING TO FACILITATE RELATIONS WITH PORTUGAL. WE HAVE A REALLY GOOD, STRONG, PORTUGUESE COMMUNITY IN RHODE ISLAND. IT WAS RIDICULOUS, OUTRAGEOUS. CAMPAIGN MONEY SHOULD NOT BE SPENT ON PERSONAL VACATIONS. JIM: GIVEN WHAT IS BEING SPENT AT TF GREEN AIRPORT, IF THEY CAN BRING ONE AIRLINE AND, MAYBE IT WILL BE WORTH IT.>>THAT WAS A GREAT STORY. IT WAS EYE-OPENING. I AM OUTRAGED, SHOCKINGLY — MY OUTRAGE IS OUR GOVERNOR, GINA MONDO — GINA RAY MONDO — GINA RAIMONDO, JUMPING UP AND DOWN ABOUT THIS DEAL WITH I.T., BUT WHAT ABOUT YOU HIP — UHIP. THIS IMPACTS OR NATIONAL NETWORK. HER BUSINESS ASSOCIATE. WHEN ALL IS SAID AND DONE, I THINK WE SHOULD STOP CALLING HER OUT CHIEF EXECUTIVE. SHE SHOULD BE THE NETWORK ARE IN — NETWORKER IN CHIEF. JIM: LET’S GO TO THE DEMOCRATIC DEBATE. IF YOU ARE NOT FOLLOWING WENDY SCHILLER ON TWITTER YOU ARE MISSING A GOOD SHOW. YOU GO BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN THE PRESIDENT AND WENDY AND YOU WILL BE FULLY ENTERTAINED. I WAS WATCHING A LITTLE THURSDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL, A LITTLE RED SOX AND WHAT I MISSED, WENDY FILLED IN THE GAPS. LET’S PULL BACK AT 30,000 FEET. YOUR GENERAL THOUGHTS? PROF. SCHILLER: THE BIG TAKE AWAY IS HOW QUICKLY THE DEMOCRATS NARROWED DOWN. OTHER DEMOCRATS WERE FREAKING OUT IN EARLY JUNE, 25, 26 RUNNING. IT’S ONLY THREE FRONT RUNNERS AND PHYSICALLY ON ABC THEY PUT THEM FOR AN CENTER AND SPENT THE EXTRA BEAT — THE FIRST 20 MINUTES WITH THEM AND MADE EVERYONE ELSE LOOK LIKE THEY WERE AUDITIONING FOR VP. I THINK EVERYBODY ELSE IS TRYING TO BREAK OUT BUT IT LOOKS LIKE IT’S GOING TO BE A BIG BRAWL BETWEEN THOSE THREE PEOPLE. JIM: SHOULD ABC BE DOING THAT? IS IT WORTH IT — THE UNDERCARD PEOPLE WOULD SAY I NEED THE TIME AND THE EXPOSURE OR IS — AND I DO NOT KNOW ABOUT THIS — LET’S HEAR FROM THE FRONT RUNNERS IN DEPTH. DO I CARE WHAT ANDREW YANG SAYS? PROF. SCHILLER: I DO NOT RECALL THEM DOING THIS WHEN THERE WERE 17 PEOPLE IN THE REPUBLICAN RACE STILL IN SEPTEMBER. I DO NOT RECALL THEM PHYSICALLY PLACING THE FRONT RUNNERS IN THE MIDDLE AND SPENDING MORE TIME ON THEM UNTIL WELL INTO THE LATER FALL. IT WAS INTERESTING HOW EVERYONE TRIED TO BREAKOUT. IT’S A BIG TEST. A FEW PEOPLE DID — JIM: IPAD JOE BIDEN CAME OUT — PROF. SCHILLER: MUCH BETTER THAN THE LAST DEBATE. SO WITH THE ELIZABETH WARREN. JIM: WERE YOU WATCHING OR READING HER TWEETS?>>I WAS SLEEPING. JIM: OH, PLEASE.>>I DID NOT HEAR ONE THING ABOUT THE ECONOMY, AND YOU KNOW WHY? BECAUSE THE ECONOMY IS REALLY GOOD. THANK YOU, PRESIDENT JOHN WILL — PRESIDENT DONALD J. TRUMP. THEY CAN TALK ABOUT THE ECONOMY. YOU CAN’T TALK ABOUT THESE THINGS. YOU HAVE TO TALK ABOUT CRAZY SOCIALIST IDEAS. NOT ALL OF THEIR IDEAS WERE THAT CRAZY AND SOCIALIST — JIM: WHAT ABOUT THE DEFICIT?>>DID THEY TALK ABOUT IT. — DID THEY TALK ABOUT IT? PROF. SCHILLER: YOU ARE THE PARTY THAT ALWAYS EXPLODES. JIM: THAT DEFICIT THAT WILL SETTLE FOR MORE GENERATIONS –>>I’M LOOKING AT THE GROWTH. PROF. SCHILLER: OH –>>THE TOP UP ECONOMICS, THE BOTTOM TO TOP ECONOMICS, YOU KNOW, ON THE GROUND, THE AVERAGE PERSON THAT LIVES JUST DOWN THE STREET IN ELMWOOD, I AM CERTAIN THE VAST MAJORITY OF THEM WOULD NOT AGREE THE ECONOMY IS IN GREAT SHAPE. WE ARE FORCED IN, LAST OUT OF A RECESSION, RIGHT? RIGHT NOW THOSE VP CANDIDATES — OBVIOUSLY,BETO DOUBLING, TRIPLING, GUN LEGISLATION. CASTRO IS GOING TO TRIPLE DOWN ON HIS AGE AND THE FACT THAT HE IS NOT JOE BIDEN, I GUESS. PROF. SCHILLER: DO YOU THINK YOU MADE A MISTAKE LAST NIGHT WITH THAT?>>NO QUESTION. PROF. SCHILLER: THAT REMARK WAS UNCALLED FOR. JIM: MAKING IT SOUND LIKE JOE BIDEN IS LOSING HIS MIND.>>IT’S NOT MUCH DIFFERENT THAN PRESIDENT TRUMP, JUST TRYING TO GET AN OUTRAGEOUS COMMENT IN TO GET A JAB RATHER THAN A POLICY POSITION, YOU KNOW? JIM: HANDICAP — I KNOW, WE ARE A YEAR AHEAD. IF IT DOES COME — WHO COULD TAKE ON PRESIDENT TRUMP AT THIS POINT? IS JOE BIDEN SOLIDIFYING OR DOES HE STILL HAVE ISSUES? PROF. SCHILLER: I THINK THE FRONT FACING OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY, JOE BIDEN BEING THE HEAD OF THE TICKET OR ELIZABETH WARREN HAS NEGATIVES. NOT AS HIGH AS HILLARY’S. SHE HAS DONE MUCH BETTER ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL. AFRICAN-AMERICAN TURNOUT WAS MUCH LOWER IN 2016 AND IF DEMOCRATS DO NOT GET AFRICAN-AMERICAN TURNOUT THEY CANNOT WIN IN 2020. FRONT RUNNER, VP, YOU’VE GOT TO ENGAGE AFRICAN-AMERICANS IF YOU LOOK AT THE SWING STATES TO WIN. JIM: YOU GET THE LAST 15 SECONDS?>>I DO? OUT OF THE 10 CANDIDATES, I CAN’T SEE HOW DONALD TRUMP LOSES AND ANYONE PAYING ATTENTION TO THESE POLLS SHOULD GO BACK TO 2016. JIM: ALL RIGHT, WE ARE SAVING THE TAPE. WENDY, BRANDON, BILL, YOU MAKE IT A VERY FAST HALF-HOUR, BUT A LIVELY ONE. THANKS FOR JOINING US. WE HOPE YOU COME BACK HERE NEXT WEEK AS “A LIVELY EXPERIMENT” CONTINUES.>>”A LIVELY EXPERIMENT” IS GENEROUSLY UNDERWRITTEN BY –>>FOR MORE THAN 30 YEARS, “A LIVELY EXPERIMENT” HAS PROVIDED INSIGHT AND ANALYSIS OF IMPORTANT ISSUES.

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