Bonginkosi Khanyile | Fees Must Fall activist

Bonginkosi Khanyile | Fees Must Fall activist

yesterday bonking quasi can heal a managed to hold a meeting with government officials after spending a night outside the union buildings in a bid to attract the president's attention to his case Canada travelled to Pretoria this week to seek a presidential pardon after his conviction by the Durban Regional Court for public violence in possession of explosives assault and inciting violence early this month baan Gaeng cosy can ye lay who is out on bail is a fees must fall activist and has come to join us in studio good to see you thanks very much for coming in Thank You Benji so I believe that you've now spent your second night sleeping outside of Parliament yes yes I'm not Parliament a bit about the Union Buildings yes yeah okay so any response have you had anything yet we saying you've had meetings but have you had meetings yeah we have had some meeting with some government officials but with who have not met the president okay yeah yes you your plan is not to leave until you hear from the president in one form or the other yeah because we are planing that a gist he comes and tells us that all of us were pardoned even if it doesn't come himself physically if we can just send an email or send a government official or just say through media in any form then we'll build my mother and the brother that I came with from Kaiser and we'll cooperate together I was reading a report and perhaps you can correct me on this from the presidential spokesperson who was saying that you're aiming this in the wrong direction you should rather be going to the the Department of Justice you need to approach them not the presidency did they come out and communicate this to you they yes they did said something along those lines but was saying we're not aiming at a wrong office because it's only the president that can pardon us at this time around of course working with all structures which are they including the justice system I was saying the president must go engage all structures and say no I'm willing to patent them and I'm sure Chief Justice Mahoney I don't think that his appetites for us to be destroyed I I'm confident if you can approach his office they can be something in a solution to all of us which are actually attending cases and those who are convicted yeah now your your greatest concern is your future because now having a criminal record and of course you still have to be sentenced you don't know how long you have to spend time in jail for imprisoned for this is going to be a very big big big problem for you so talk to me about your intentions of getting a presidential pardon yeah remember it's not only me yeah I've spent almost six months in prison I have experience it's not nice while speaking there's a guy by the name of Carter Cash who's a convicted for five years for for fees mass four other guys Amla is serving a house arrest 12 months and I'm also found guilty by the court of law on the 16th of October I must be sentenced and only god knows what would be my sentence so the period between being found guilty and the sentencing is a very devastating one in fact is the one that has also pushed me to come and say perhaps if we sleep outside of your office's you are going to get the message that we are under a frustration we are under serious suffocation and we need a you to intervene and ensure that you are set free because we believe that whatever has happened has happened under a political situation and it needs a political intervention but we have seen some posture which seeks to concentrate more on the Procrit seek the Constitution and everything else we think about this is a political situation which deserves a political intervention now if we if we look back to the times of the fees must fall you do concede that you broke the law at the time I do consider do you do you do you agree that you broke the law at the time of the fees much for protests I protested then in many thing happen and and it's not the question of a loan it's a question to say we were demanding free education and whatever we've done we've done it under those conditions for instance there is an argument that way the protests during 2016 became violent and way violent but no.16 to a concentrate on the question the militarization of institutions of higher learning by the state in terms of putting the police force and by university management in terms of unleashing the private securities and once you push for a violent you are bound to a person who's a victim for such is bound when the time goes by to respond in any way yeah so you're saying that you you you had no option but to act the way you did at the time there was no option at all would you change anything but if you look back to to your behavior would you change anything that you did especially seeing the outcome if the police were to hurt us like that it was not a question of off of a plant in an action it was a question of they will suffocate you the ones who dismantle the whole stack and remember here what was happening on campuses once you are organized you are trying to organize yourself they come and say we can't be in groups of five they unleash violence they attack people as respect today they are they still continuing this violence against a student in Westville today there are women who have been PT I challenge you to go and look at the page of you catherine was vide a woman was tracked down by police office and nothing has happened while speaking to today's no police officers has attended a court on the violence against the students and by the way the cases which are facing most of them that the highly police car I'm going to speak with mine because I'm more familiar with you know I participated in a protest when I was arrested I had 15 accounts they went down I had 13 accounts on one protest can you imagine imposition of the explosives in possession of dangerous weapon what are the dangerous open this is a slingshot case is that you charges that they don't make sense when you add them together so a saying it's a political situation and the courts were attempted to act political in terms of clamping down at the protest and it needs a political intervention not a bureaucratic intent and constitutional unfortunately we're out of time but I I need to ask you your next step if in fact you don't have word from the president you do not get a presidential pardon what are your next steps what are you going to do we'll stay there until you are persuaded otherwise you'll stay at the Union Buildings until you yes you get this pattern is and if it doesn't happen that that I think you must have another step or not I don't know but for now I haven't thought of anything yeah I must just give that that thing what are criminals by the way you know the South African youth they are not criminals the Utah South Africa they suffer from a job a unemployment high unemployment there's this imaging a graduates unemployment profits malnutrition if the youth was violent the South Africa should be in ashes to tea but those were not violent we are able to understand and be patient with issues but well treated as if during fees must follow just those criminals and I looked as if we are criminals Jordan the FISMA thought we repor responded it to the situation which were faced with but general are not violent even you are looking at me do I look Volland I think I look like a very honorable and nice jolly young man yes you do and and and you are young and you have got a bright future ahead of you and unfortunately what about little that no that's what I'm going to say unfortunately with this this again to do it it is going to be very very tough but I think what I'm what I need to know is what it was there any other way I mean surely there could have been a lover way for you to have acted and you know I mean some of your colleagues for instance Kenya and I and I hope I pronounced it right Takeshi Sukesh ah he is serving 60 or five years in imprisonment Leo called suspended for for for torching a police van there are others that that had public violence against them that were behaving very very badly I mean there was some that burnt down libraries the you see do not you see tea at the University of Johannesburg so there was a lot of action police had to take and the law has to take its course I need your comments on that I need to look back and and honestly say this was the way it should have gone my comment is let me say just to make the distance imple me and you are in it or in a relationship were married I constantly beat you up they tell you respond to those beatings you I then rush to police and open a case they find you guilty and they say you are a criminal are you really a criminal or you were forced by the condi to respond the way you responded we do satirically that no you are a violent person and the law must take its course and remember that was a political situation during the democratic dispensation you had a burpee w port and declares which were given a patent they never served any sentences because they said the hanging of our comrades they acted in a political situation now we are in a transition from a situation whereby there's no free education so a situation whereby this free education and whatever we've done we've done in a political situation we must be pardoned all of us because even the government has agreed that indeed the free education was a genuine coin but now is prosecuting and patching all those who are in the forefront I don't think that it's a fair thing and we are not criminals let's don't look at us as criminals and say the law must take its course this abolishment situation and he must responded to it in a political way and courts by the way they were very political in when dealing with this meant the intention by the state was to clamp down the FISMA zone not for it to continue anonymous who are supporting it EF f or the helping you out they do they do help they to help all right let's leave it there thank you for your much for coming in I know it's a long journey for you to get here long and cozy canula is camping out outside the Union Buildings until he hears from President Jacob Zuma himself by but in person or at least email did I just say break it I don't think you want to hear from President Jacob Zuma give this guy a pardon you helped me out here anyway so a president Cyril Ramaphosa he's waiting to hear whether or not he can get a presidential pardon or not his sentencing is on the 16th of October

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