When AOC Has A Comic Book, Have They Become Too Political? Stan Lee Wouldn’t Think So | NBC News Now

When AOC Has A Comic Book, Have They Become Too Political? Stan Lee Wouldn’t Think So | NBC News Now


CALL. ARE COMIC BOOKS THAT ARE ARE COMIC BOOKS THAT ARE POLITICAL ANYTHING NEW? POLITICAL ANYTHING NEW?>>Reporter: WE’RE IN THE MIDST>>Reporter: WE’RE IN THE MIDST OF A COMIC BOOK RENAISSANCE. OF A COMIC BOOK RENAISSANCE. SO OKAY, MAYBE NOT COMIC BOOKS SO OKAY, MAYBE NOT COMIC BOOKS PER SE. PER SE. BUT THE STORIES INSPIRED BY THEM BUT THE STORIES INSPIRED BY THEM ARE EVERYWHERE. ARE EVERYWHERE. MOVIES. MOVIES. TV SHOWS. TV SHOWS. PODCASTS. PODCASTS. SUPERHEROES ARE IN ESCAPABLE. SUPERHEROES ARE IN ESCAPABLE. WITH NEW FANS COME NEW CRITICS. WITH NEW FANS COME NEW CRITICS. AND ONE ISSUE THEY HAVE LATCHED AND ONE ISSUE THEY HAVE LATCHED ON TO IS THE FORCED PLITIZATION ON TO IS THE FORCED PLITIZATION OF THESE STORIES. OF THESE STORIES. WE HAVE SEEN A BACKLASH AGAINST WE HAVE SEEN A BACKLASH AGAINST A BLACK SPIDER MAN. A BLACK SPIDER MAN. A FEMALE CAPTAIN MARVEL. A FEMALE CAPTAIN MARVEL. AND EB WONDER WOMAN. AND EB WONDER WOMAN. THEY USE HASHTAGS LIKE BOYCOTT THEY USE HASHTAGS LIKE BOYCOTT CAPTAIN MARVEL TO SHOW THEIR CAPTAIN MARVEL TO SHOW THEIR DISTATE. DISTATE. THE POLICYIZATION OF THEIR SOUP THE POLICYIZATION OF THEIR SOUP HOE E HE HOE E HE — SUPERHEROS ARE UPSETTING. — SUPERHEROS ARE UPSETTING.>>PEOPLE THAT ARE UPSET HAVE A>>PEOPLE THAT ARE UPSET HAVE A POINT OF VIEWS THE LIKE THEY POINT OF VIEWS THE LIKE THEY WANT THEM TO BE UNSOPHISTICATED. WANT THEM TO BE UNSOPHISTICATED. AND THERE’S A SOPHISTICATED AND THERE’S A SOPHISTICATED AUDIENCE. AUDIENCE.>>Reporter: LUKE LIVES AND>>Reporter: LUKE LIVES AND BREATHES COMIC BOOKS. BREATHES COMIC BOOKS. THE WRITER AND EDITOR OF RED THE WRITER AND EDITOR OF RED SONYA. SONYA. HE WAS LUCKY ENOUGH TO CALL STAN HE WAS LUCKY ENOUGH TO CALL STAN LEE, THE GOD FATHER OF MARVEL LEE, THE GOD FATHER OF MARVEL COMICS, HIS MENTOR. COMICS, HIS MENTOR.>>AS STAN LEE SAID A STORY>>AS STAN LEE SAID A STORY WITHOUT A MESSAGE IS LIKE MAN WITHOUT A MESSAGE IS LIKE MAN WITHOUT A SOUL. WITHOUT A SOUL.>>Reporter: STAN WROTE SOAP BOX>>Reporter: STAN WROTE SOAP BOX COLUMNS. COLUMNS. IN 1970, AVENGERS NUMBER 74, HE IN 1970, AVENGERS NUMBER 74, HE ADDRESSED THE ISSUE. ADDRESSED THE ISSUE. FROM TIME TO TIME, WE RECEIVE FROM TIME TO TIME, WE RECEIVE LETTERS FROM READERS TO SAY LETTERS FROM READERS TO SAY THERE IS TOO MUCH MORALIZING IN THERE IS TOO MUCH MORALIZING IN OUR MAGS. OUR MAGS. SOMEHOW, I CAN’T SEE IT THAT SOMEHOW, I CAN’T SEE IT THAT WAY. WAY. IT SEEMS TO ME A STORY WITHOUT A IT SEEMS TO ME A STORY WITHOUT A MESSAGE, HOWEVER SUBLIMINAL, IS MESSAGE, HOWEVER SUBLIMINAL, IS LIKE MAN WITHOUT HIS SOUL. LIKE MAN WITHOUT HIS SOUL.>>ANY GOOD ART FORM.>>ANY GOOD ART FORM. AND THIS IS A POPULAR ART FORM, AND THIS IS A POPULAR ART FORM, HAS A POINT OF VIEW. HAS A POINT OF VIEW. SINCE CAPTAIN AMERICA PUNCHED SINCE CAPTAIN AMERICA PUNCHED OUT HITLER IN THE ’40s. OUT HITLER IN THE ’40s.>>Reporter: A HISTORY SOME>>Reporter: A HISTORY SOME NEWER FANS MIGHT NOT BE AWARE NEWER FANS MIGHT NOT BE AWARE OF. OF. PUNCHING HITLER IN THE FACE PUNCHING HITLER IN THE FACE MIGHT NOT SEEM VERY MIGHT NOT SEEM VERY CONTROVERSIAL. CONTROVERSIAL. THIS WAS 1941, BEFORE AMERICAN THIS WAS 1941, BEFORE AMERICAN SOLDIERS FOUGHT IN EUROPE AND SOLDIERS FOUGHT IN EUROPE AND BEFORE A MAJORITY IN THE COUNTRY BEFORE A MAJORITY IN THE COUNTRY SUPPORTED ENTERING THE WAR AT SUPPORTED ENTERING THE WAR AT ALL. ALL.>>IN THE ’40s, THEY WERE>>IN THE ’40s, THEY WERE FIGHTING THE AXIS POWERS AND THE FIGHTING THE AXIS POWERS AND THE NAZIS. NAZIS. IN THE ’60s, YOU HAD THE X MEN IN THE ’60s, YOU HAD THE X MEN COME OUT COME OUT MUTANTS WERE A STAND-IN FOR JEWS MUTANTS WERE A STAND-IN FOR JEWS OR AFRICAN-AMERICANS OR THE LGBT OR AFRICAN-AMERICANS OR THE LGBT COMMUNITY OR WHATEVER. COMMUNITY OR WHATEVER.>>POLITICAL MESSAGES.>>POLITICAL MESSAGES.>>WHATEVER THE MINORITY WAS.>>WHATEVER THE MINORITY WAS. RIGHT? RIGHT? ONE OF THE BASIC CONCEPTS OF ONE OF THE BASIC CONCEPTS OF BLACK PANTHER WAS THAT WHAT KANA BLACK PANTHER WAS THAT WHAT KANA WAS NOT COLONIZED. WAS NOT COLONIZED.>>YOU CAN START BUILDING AND>>YOU CAN START BUILDING AND SHAPING GREAT CHARACTERS FOR SHAPING GREAT CHARACTERS FOR EACH GENERATION. EACH GENERATION. THE TEMPLATE IS THERE. THE TEMPLATE IS THERE.>>Reporter: BRINE IS LUKE’S>>Reporter: BRINE IS LUKE’S CREATEIVE PARTNER. CREATEIVE PARTNER. HE’S A DIE HARD FAN OF COMICS. HE’S A DIE HARD FAN OF COMICS. COMIC BOOKS PLAY FAST AND LOOSE COMIC BOOKS PLAY FAST AND LOOSE WITH MULTIPLE VERGS OF WITH MULTIPLE VERGS OF CHARACTERS. CHARACTERS. ALTERNATE REALITIES AND SHIFTING ALTERNATE REALITIES AND SHIFTING TIME LOOINS. TIME LOOINS.>>PETER PARKER CAN AGE.>>PETER PARKER CAN AGE. OR HE DOESN’T AGE. OR HE DOESN’T AGE. BRUCE WAYNE IN THE 1930s MAY BRUCE WAYNE IN THE 1930s MAY HAVE VN A DARK VIGILANTE. HAVE VN A DARK VIGILANTE. TODAY, A MISUNDERSTOOD TODAY, A MISUNDERSTOOD BILLIONAIRE. BILLIONAIRE.>>SOMETIMES IT WORKS.>>SOMETIMES IT WORKS. SOMETIMES IT DOESN’T. SOMETIMES IT DOESN’T.>>IT’S BEAUTIFUL.>>IT’S BEAUTIFUL.>>Reporter: CAPTAIN MARVEL IS A>>Reporter: CAPTAIN MARVEL IS A WOMAN IN SOME IT RATIONS AND A WOMAN IN SOME IT RATIONS AND A MAN IN OTHERS. MAN IN OTHERS. MOVIES ABOUT MILES AND PETER MOVIES ABOUT MILES AND PETER PARKER EXIST AT THE SAME TIME. PARKER EXIST AT THE SAME TIME.>>I GO TO THE COMIC SHOP EVERY>>I GO TO THE COMIC SHOP EVERY WEEK. WEEK. I FEEL THERE ARE ICONIC I FEEL THERE ARE ICONIC CHARACTERS TO SOMEBODY 30 YEARS CHARACTERS TO SOMEBODY 30 YEARS FROM NOW. FROM NOW. AND THERE SHOULD BE FRESH BLOOD AND THERE SHOULD BE FRESH BLOOD TODAY IN ANY INDUSTRY. TODAY IN ANY INDUSTRY. OTHERWISE, WHAT WITH REDOING. OTHERWISE, WHAT WITH REDOING.>>Reporter: IT SEEMS>>Reporter: IT SEEMS COUNTERINTUITIVE THAT SOME OF COUNTERINTUITIVE THAT SOME OF THE SUPERHEROES THAT WERE KREE THE SUPERHEROES THAT WERE KREE KRATD SHOULDN’T BE POLITICAL. KRATD SHOULDN’T BE POLITICAL. AND TODAY, OUR COUNTRY IS AND TODAY, OUR COUNTRY IS ARGUABLY MORE POLITICAL THAN ARGUABLY MORE POLITICAL THAN EVER. EVER. SO WHAT SORT OF COMICS COME OUT SO WHAT SORT OF COMICS COME OUT OF THIS? OF THIS? ALEXANDRIA OCASIO-CORTEZ AND THE ALEXANDRIA OCASIO-CORTEZ AND THE FRESHMAN FORCE. FRESHMAN FORCE. WHAT SIT GOING TO BE? WHAT SIT GOING TO BE?>>A COLLECTION OF STORIES.>>A COLLECTION OF STORIES. FOUR TO FIVE-PAGE SHORT STORIES FOUR TO FIVE-PAGE SHORT STORIES THAT TAKE HER ON ADVENTURES. THAT TAKE HER ON ADVENTURES.>>Reporter: HE IS THE PUBLISHER>>Reporter: HE IS THE PUBLISHER OF DEVILS DO COMICS. OF DEVILS DO COMICS. THEY PUT OUT BOOKS ABOUT ALL THEY PUT OUT BOOKS ABOUT ALL SORTS OF THINGS. SORTS OF THINGS. THIS SUMMER, A STORY ABOUT THIS SUMMER, A STORY ABOUT CONGRESSWOMAN ALEXANDRIA CONGRESSWOMAN ALEXANDRIA OCASIO-CORTEZ. OCASIO-CORTEZ. FOR MOST PEOPLE, THEY THINK FOR MOST PEOPLE, THEY THINK COMICS COMICS COMICS, SUPERMAN, WONDER WOMAN. COMICS, SUPERMAN, WONDER WOMAN. NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE THINKING NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE THINKING ABOUT LAWMAKERS. ABOUT LAWMAKERS.>>TRUE.>>TRUE.>>Reporter: I THINK A LOT OF>>Reporter: I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD BE SURPRISED TO SEE PEOPLE WOULD BE SURPRISED TO SEE A CONGRESSWOMAN GRACING THE A CONGRESSWOMAN GRACING THE COVER OF A COMIC BOOK. COVER OF A COMIC BOOK. IS THERE AN AUDIENCE? IS THERE AN AUDIENCE?>>ABSOLUTELY.>>ABSOLUTELY. WE’RE PROBABLY SELLING THE WE’RE PROBABLY SELLING THE MAJORITY TO PEOPLE THAT DON’T MAJORITY TO PEOPLE THAT DON’T READ COMIC BOOKS. READ COMIC BOOKS. AS A COMIC BOOK CREATE IR, YOU AS A COMIC BOOK CREATE IR, YOU STOP THINKING ABOUT IT AS A STOP THINKING ABOUT IT AS A GENRE. GENRE. WE GET A MAINSTREAM VIRAL WE GET A MAINSTREAM VIRAL SUCCESS, IT’S LIKE, NO COMICS SUCCESS, IT’S LIKE, NO COMICS ARE ABOUT EVERYTHING. ARE ABOUT EVERYTHING.>>Reporter: THIS IS NOT THE>>Reporter: THIS IS NOT THE FIRST COMIC BOOK BASED ON A REAL FIRST COMIC BOOK BASED ON A REAL WORLD POLITICIAN. WORLD POLITICIAN. JOSH’S TEAM WAS ABLE TO RIDE THE JOSH’S TEAM WAS ABLE TO RIDE THE WAVE OF EXCITEMENT AROUND THE WAVE OF EXCITEMENT AROUND THE RECORD NUMBER OF WOMEN IN RECORD NUMBER OF WOMEN IN CONGRESS. CONGRESS. WHAT INSPIRED YOU TO DO THIS? WHAT INSPIRED YOU TO DO THIS?>>WHEN YOU’RE AN ARTIST.>>WHEN YOU’RE AN ARTIST. IT’S HOW YOU EXPRESS YOURSELF. IT’S HOW YOU EXPRESS YOURSELF. SO WHEN SOMEONE INSPIRES, YOU SO WHEN SOMEONE INSPIRES, YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. WANT TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. IT’S A HELL OF A LOT MORE IT’S A HELL OF A LOT MORE CATHARTIC THAN POSTING ON CATHARTIC THAN POSTING ON FACEBOOK OR VENTING ONLINE. FACEBOOK OR VENTING ONLINE. THE AOC BOOK, HOW THE OBAMA BOOK THE AOC BOOK, HOW THE OBAMA BOOK WAS INSPIRED, WHEN I HEARD HE WAS INSPIRED, WHEN I HEARD HE USED TO COLLECT COMIC BOOKS. USED TO COLLECT COMIC BOOKS. AOC WAS INSPIRED FOR ME TO PULL AOC WAS INSPIRED FOR ME TO PULL THE TRIGGER WHEN SHE STARTED THE TRIGGER WHEN SHE STARTED QUOTING ALAN MOORE. QUOTING ALAN MOORE.>>Reporter: YOU’RE LIKE, WE>>Reporter: YOU’RE LIKE, WE GOTTA DO SOMETHING. GOTTA DO SOMETHING.>>FOR ANYONE THAT DOESN’T KNOW>>FOR ANYONE THAT DOESN’T KNOW WHAT THAT IS. WHAT THAT IS. THERE WAS A POLITICAL AD THAT THERE WAS A POLITICAL AD THAT SAID DEMOCRATS ARE HAVING A SAID DEMOCRATS ARE HAVING A PROBLEM REINING IN AOC. PROBLEM REINING IN AOC. SHE SAID, YOU DON’T UNDERSTAND, SHE SAID, YOU DON’T UNDERSTAND, YOU’RE LOCKED IN HERE WITH ME. YOU’RE LOCKED IN HERE WITH ME. A FAMOUS QUOTE. A FAMOUS QUOTE.>>Reporter: I THINK WHAT I>>Reporter: I THINK WHAT I LEARN SD COMIC BOOKS ARE DEEPLY LEARN SD COMIC BOOKS ARE DEEPLY ENTER TWINED WITH OUR POLITICS. ENTER TWINED WITH OUR POLITICS. POLITICIANS ARE INSPIRED BY POLITICIANS ARE INSPIRED BY THEM. THEM. AND NOW POLITICIANS ARE AND NOW POLITICIANS ARE INSPIRING THE CREATION OF INSPIRING THE CREATION OF BRAND-NEW ONES. BRAND-NEW ONES. IS IT THE COMICS THAT HAVE IS IT THE COMICS THAT HAVE CHANGED? CHANGED? OR IS IT US? OR IS IT US? DO YOU THINK IT’S THAT THINGS DO YOU THINK IT’S THAT THINGS HAVE CHANGED IN COMICS WHERE HAVE CHANGED IN COMICS WHERE THEY’RE MORE POLITICAL? THEY’RE MORE POLITICAL? OR ARE WE MORE POLITICAL AND OR ARE WE MORE POLITICAL AND MAYBE MORE DIVIDED AS A COUNTRY MAYBE MORE DIVIDED AS A COUNTRY THAN WE HAVE BEEN IN THE PAST? THAN WE HAVE BEEN IN THE PAST?>>THERE’S A WAY TO LOOK THAT>>THERE’S A WAY TO LOOK THAT THROUGH A LENS OF — BUT I LIKE THROUGH A LENS OF — BUT I LIKE TO LOOK AT IT AS OPPORTUNITY. TO LOOK AT IT AS OPPORTUNITY. AS A COMIC FAN, I WENT TO AS A COMIC FAN, I WENT TO CONVENTIONS TO FIND INDEPENDENT CONVENTIONS TO FIND INDEPENDENT COMICS MADE BY AND DRAWN BY ONE COMICS MADE BY AND DRAWN BY ONE INDIVIDUAL. INDIVIDUAL. NOW I GO TO THE STORE AND GO NOW I GO TO THE STORE AND GO THROUGH A LOT OF POP CULTURE. THROUGH A LOT OF POP CULTURE. IF YOU HAVE A POINT OF VIEW, YOU IF YOU HAVE A POINT OF VIEW, YOU CAN GET IT OUT THERE. CAN GET IT OUT THERE. YOU CAN PUBLISH IT. YOU CAN PUBLISH IT. IF YOU WANT TO CREATE SOMETHING, IF YOU WANT TO CREATE SOMETHING, YOU WANT YOUR VOICE TO BE HEARD, YOU WANT YOUR VOICE TO BE HEARD, YOU CAN GET IT OUT THERE.

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69 thoughts on “When AOC Has A Comic Book, Have They Become Too Political? Stan Lee Wouldn’t Think So | NBC News Now

  1. Someone should do a comic where the green new deal is reality, the United States has turned into Venezuela and the "squad" is our overlords.

  2. Stan Lee suffered God complex.
    having a comic run without a message (Garfield), is like a man not having a soul.
    well prove men have a soul.. PUSHED MORALITY while explaining why he used morality.. wow
    how about that for subliminal oversight? ya, I'm talking to you

  3. I've been reading comics for over 40 years seen it all hear it all I will continue to read them because I love them and I agree with the late great Stan Lee there is nothing wrong in putting powerful messages in your stories that's what got me into comics in the first place

  4. Dumpster mouth why don't you jump off a cliff a. Very hi one crap comes out everytime you speak, lies..💆‍♂️💆‍♀️💆‍♀️💆‍♀️💆‍♀️

  5. George Washington would roll over in his grave Thomas Jefferson he fought the Muslims and he said they will always be what they are and they are today. Since Muhammad they killed 750 million innocent people that is documented my dr. Bill Warner

  6. Trump Approval Rating? GONE ARE:
    MILLIONS of Trump haters in the streets
    race riots
    weekly statue riots
    campus antifree speech riots
    coast2coast ANTIFA riots
    school walkouts
    road blockades
    flag burnings
    Occupy
    PoorMe
    BlackLivesMatter
    Iraq War
    oil wars
    CNN
    @ @ @

  7. Quit tryna paint a narrative that was never there. They’re trying to blame comic book fans for the reason their movies bomb.

  8. Wow, at 4:22, could the NBC reporter possibly be more happy and smile wider while saying AOC's name? It looks like she got wet just thinking about AOC.

  9. Last time the gaytrun media went all out attacking Trump and it cost them the election… So go ahead sane people not swayed by your propaganda…. Who will buy this trash? Barbara Streisand bought up all Michael Moores books so he could be a best seller

  10. B*tch wonder woman is a original not like captain marvel who was originally a man. Why are these f*ckers talking about comics if they don't understand it.

  11. I love that the issue is detectors changing race and gender to please liberals and this video dodges that the entire time.

    Also aoc’s “nazi punch”? When u read “hulk smash” that isn’t someone smashing the hulk so a nazi punch is done by a nazi.

  12. A great representation of their argument. They make up a narrative and continue to attack a straw man and hold fake moral high ground against the evil people that don't really exist.

  13. NBC, I remember when you used to be a real news network, man, am I getting old. The more you dig at the POTUS, the more people hate YOU not him. NBC,CBS, ABC, CNN and the likes, if you said it was daylight outside, I'd get a flashlight and go look. Can you spell FAKE NEWS?

  14. They should make a comic about aoc learning the branches of government, or the occupation of palestine

  15. The golden era of comics are gone forever :
    There's no Jack Kirby, Jim Steranko, John Buscema, Gil Kane, John Romita Sr, Ross Andru, John Byrne, Frank Miller, David Mazucchelli anymore.

  16. So having AOC calling Trump a Nazi in a comic book is cool? Ok, what if someone on the right created a comic book and had Trump calling AOC a commie? Would snowflakes still be laughing? No, they would have a meltdown and start crying like babies.

  17. Comic book has always been political just look a the X-men. They’re a metaphor for the oppressed. These people who complain just aren’t from the comic. These people think they know everything just because all they see is the MCU so now they “know everything.”

  18. Reverse the roll. Captain President punching a socialist (aoc) agitator. Would the left call THAT "equal" treatment?

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